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Xeones The Great · Dec 26, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

ok so zealous dragon scythes of fortitude it is!

Diddy bow · Dec 27, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

Zealous is the best all round but ebon is good on back up so you can accually hurt warriors(you can use ebon dust aura too!)
Vamp is great for a bit of extra dmg or healing
and the condition stuff is really hit or miss depending on your build
sundering sucs so...there

Kaleban · Dec 27, 2006, 03:16 PM // 15:16

I rarely use Enchanting builds nowadays, there is heavy enchant removal everywhere it seems in NF.

I go mostly with Hex/Lead builds, and sometimes DA builds too.

That being said, my daggers that I currently use:

Shiro's Blades - I use these whenever I go in for a spike combo, the lifesteal quickly adds up. Great for PvP spikes, with my current setup I can take out the 100 AL dummy in less than 5 seconds. 15^50

Zealous Dragon Scythes of Fort - These are my "general use" daggers, and see the most use in PvE. Almost mandatory if you're not using Black Lotus or Golden Lotus in your build. 15^50

Ebon Zodiac Daggers of Enchanting - I use these for specialized builds. Damage type syncs up well with Ebon Dust Aura from the Dervish line, very few in PvP take Earth Damage resistant armor, and you don't have to worry about the slashing vs. piercing problem here. +5 Energy

In my fourth slot, I either have a bow for pulling, or my hugely expensive Earth Staff for solo farming.

I I I Inferno I I I · Dec 28, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Unges Of The Oni fit me well...

(i know they have -5nrg but i got used 2 it and dont make any difference)

but, on the other hand if u got 16dagger mastery and 15 crit strikes... energy is no problem even on 60 dp with prot spirit in UW u still got no prob with nrg...

i personally like the idea of zelous crit barrager

40-70 dmg per hit on minimum one of 6 foes and 40% chance of crit hitting = max of 21 nrg O,...,O

got sidetracked there but zelous is definetley best and like i said crit strikes is awesome, it benefits u from a crit hit chance and skills.

and a personall question: is it possible to get 2 crit hits on a double strike?

Sqube · Dec 29, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20

16 Dagger Mastery? Okay...

15 Critical Strikes? Dear Lord, why? You get just as much Energy as you would at 13, don't have to use a health-sapping major rune, and can put those points somewhere else.

I'm currently running 13/11/13 DM/SA/CS; not claiming it's the best, but it works out nicely for me.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Dec 29, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Everthorn's Chakrams are zealous.

Zealous.

Zealous.

Zealous.

Did I mention Zealous?

LOL Yanman still drinking the Everthorn Juice eh? Well yeah I think for most melee weapons Zealous or Vamp>all.... if you want damage bring a self heal or regenerative spell(NOT MENDING!) and go with Vamp, the consistent +5 damage pressure outdoes a Sunder mod consistently.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Dec 29, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by I I I Inferno I I I

and a personall question: is it possible to get 2 crit hits on a double strike?

Yeah it's awesome when I have my crit eye on and I hit the first half of my combo, and I am low on energy but then when I hit my first dual strike my energy skyrockets back up XD

Ruricu · Dec 31, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

I think this question could have and should have been trumped on the first answer by looking at what the Keeper of Secrets has to offer at the end of the Nightfall Campaign... Slashing Daggers that are ALL Zealous of Fortitude... 'nuff said.

AuraofMana · Dec 31, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

The problem with Zealous Scythe is the Scythe's low attack speed. Zealous works wonder on Daggers because Daggers hit fast. Zealous Scythe is not worth it unless you hit 2 or more targets (I don't think 2 is even worth it), so the problem goes that decent people (in PvP) will not stay in groups when they see you. Throw in the Kiting factor and you got no energy.
Use Zealous Renewal in PvE works the same as Zealous mod. As for PvP, you can try using Zealous Renewal (and bring something to increase your movement like a good PvPer so your target can't get that far away from you, but then again, you SHOULD have Crippling Sweep).
Sundering is actually worth it on Scythe due to its multiple hits.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Dec 31, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55

uh...Aura this board is kind of about...daggers...and I use a zealous scythe on an extremely energy healthy build and it works just fine, and sundering just sucks...

Shendaar · Jan 01, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

"Dragon scythes" are daggers.

Damastes · Jan 03, 2007, 01:36 PM // 13:36

Nowt wrong with Everthorn's Chakrams... farmed them cos I like the look

pve-er · Jan 03, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

just get a collector's butterfly knife and put the upgrade on, I love my butterfly knife and don't even bother to use my hard-earn Urgue of Forgotten

Sqube · Jan 03, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

pve-er, are you talking about the 15^50 Butterfly Knives? I'm totally trying to get four of those, but I just can't get Mantid Pincers to drop worth a damn.

Yanman.be · Jan 03, 2007, 08:30 PM // 20:30

I got 1 mantid pincer to help you out...

pve-er · Jan 04, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqube

pve-er, are you talking about the 15^50 Butterfly Knives? I'm totally trying to get four of those, but I just can't get Mantid Pincers to drop worth a damn.

I was hoping people will have gold butterfly knife with max stat that I can buy, but NO, I never see a gold max split chakram or butterfly knife at all. so I have to repeatedly farm mantis , to make this less boring I join group and help people on quest, collect mantis pincer on the way.
there are many Mantis outside of Fedale just keep farm them,

Sqube · Jan 04, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Yanman.be: My IGN is Aselon Silentstrike if you're interested in giving that to me. Nothing so important as to set up a meet, but if you happen to see me along the way, I wouldn't be averse to getting one of those.

pve-er: Yeah, I figured I was going to have to be farming those bastards for a while. I just hate those damn Mesmers, and then they've got the Stone Spores floating around out there... ugh.

To be honest though, I've never seen gold Butterfly Knives drop. I think I might've seen purple once, but other than that... white and blue all the way.

I wish they dropped in Elona so I could just get max damage ones and use inscriptions, but whatever. The 15^50 from collectors is exactly what I'd want anyway.

15^50, Zealous, Fortitude
15^50, Shocking, Fortitude
???
Profit!

Edit: Man, the profanity filter on this board is nuts. RED ENGINE GORED? WTF?

Yanman.be · Jan 04, 2007, 10:35 AM // 10:35

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO.

Nice eh?

pve-er · Jan 04, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

what is RED ENGINE GORED?

Yanman.be · Jan 04, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Something from a children's animated train show or something.